E35-II Engine Mount

chaco

Member III
Thank you all for helping me with a successful and safe engine removal.

I used the Fly Girl Method (good one Leighton :D )
Ran the main halyard to the topping lift. Now you have a crane arm.
Used an 8' 4x4 strapped to the boom for the first move off the mounts
Slid the engine on a piece of upside-down carpet to the companion way
Hoisted up through the companion way from the boom on to a crate
that strattled the cockpit
Moved the line strap and carpet protector down to the end of the boom
Used the boom as a crane arm to swing the engine on to a dolly
Made a ramp and rolled the dolly in to my truck

And alas.....my engine mount on the starboard side is rusted to wobbley
sheet metal ! :( . Will need a new mount and would appreciate guidance
on a replacent :confused:

Thanks !

Dan Simpson
74' E35-II
Merlin
Oceanside Harbor, CA
 

rssailor

Moderator
engine mount

Dan,
What kind of engine is this again? The steel stringer that the engine sits on is rusted out?? Got any pics of what the problem is? Ryan
 
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NateHanson

Sustaining Member
If it's just the rubber isolation mount that's rusted you can pick them up at any marine store. In fact I'd probably think it's a good idea to replace all four while you've got the engine out. These get worn and wobbly, and you can't replace them while the engine is in place. I think I recall that they were about $40 each (give or take $20 :))
 

chaco

Member III
74' E35-II Mid Engine Saga...

The original engine was an Atomic 4 -GAS
The engine was replaced with a Universal M4-30 - DIESEL in 1990.
The M4-30 is in a local shop being rebuilt.
The M4-30 was POORLY installed on the original A-4 engine bed
system with shims and engine mounts.
The original engine bed system consists of (2) motor mounts on the
port side attached to the hull and (2) motor mounts on the starboard
side attached to an 8" high sled/frame that is glassed in to the bilge.
The (3) legs of the frame sit in the bilge and (1) rusted completely off.
I have cut the frame out and am designing a whole new SS engine bed
system using the existing port motor mounts and a new support frame.
This application is difficult as the engine sits 10 +/- degrees off center
of the keel and needs support out of the bilge for (1) side :)confused:)

As anyone has accomplished this daunting task...I wanna KNOW !
Some pics would help

Thanks for your help all...:egrin:
 

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jmoses

Member III
Engine bed redo

I did an engine pull 5 years ago (1972 E-35 MKII) and by golly, your stbd frame looks cherry compared to my old one. The raw water pump in my boat was left leaking for who knows how many years before I bought the boat. Combined with sludge in the bilge and the ice box drain into the bilge made for a soupy mess ride for decay. The survey discovered the problem though. The bed was so bad, the engine was out of alignment by 1/4"! There was no way to get an alignment as the stbd frame was swiss cheese.

I yanked the engine and sistered in new steel frames coated in construction grade epoxy (like what's done with re-bar for concrete) to the old ones. I then removed the old frames to keep my alignment in the ball park range.

I fear that since you have already chopped out your frames, you're going to have a bugger getting the engine bed to line up with the shaft without a trial and error engine install approach. Unless of course the boat is out of the water with the shaft pulled, then you can do a targeting from the strut to the engine bed by running a piano wire into the boat to help with the placement of the frames.

As an aside, the epoxy coated steel angle I used was so much easier to work with (i.e cut & drill) as well as shape with a grinder than stainless steel. Keep in mind, the key to keeping the engine bed from rotting under the engine is: KEEP THE BILGE DRY & the water pump from leaking!

Since I replaced the engine bed and dropped the partially rebuilt A-4 back in, it has been rock solid. Granted the engine mounts were replaced at the same time and a PYI dripless gland put in, but it's been trouble free now for 5 years.

Sorry, no pictures of the engine bed project with out scanning them in.....and the pics are on the boat!

However, here's the results 5 years later ( I just posted the same pics on another post):
 

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