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    Well that would throw a monkey wrench in my plans... I'll be down there on Friday to ask them about it.
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    Hey Congratulations! Been busy the last few weeks with a new home and just saw this thread. It looks to me like a great deal. And if you want to get rid of that fancy V berth mattress I have a great home for it. Would love to know who made that if it's got a tag or anything on it since I've still got the old originals in my E35-3.

    All in all that's a great price for that boat with a newer diesel in it. I wouldn't get too hung up on the battery charger unless you are using something other than standard lead acid batteries. Sure somewhere down the road you might want to upgrade, but I wouldn't consider that a big issue. I don't even have my shore power hooked up most of the time, just run the motor once a month or so over the winter and it keeps things charged up and the motor lubed.

    If you are getting a lot of water coming in obviously the mast boot is a big culprit, but if you have radar on the mast you may have an amazing amount of water coming in with the wiring. Mine was not caulked or sealed and there wasn't a drip loop in the wiring before it entered the mast. One of the first things I had to chase down.

    Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier since I'm in Port Townsend and would have been happy to come down and inspect the boat with you. I'm still available during the week, usually Tuesdays through Thursdays if you need me to look something over. Fridays through Mondays I'm in Olalla working on the new house though.

    My boat is in the Port Townsend Marina on C dock if you want to take a look. The 35-3 is a roomy comfortable boat. I think you'll be happy with it.

    Good Luck!

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    Ericson 35-3 - Threats Galore

    One of the greatest things about this site is that it's likely got info for any project you'll ever take on. One of the drawbacks to that is that it can also scare the crap out of you any time you take ownership of a "new" 30-40 year old boat. Danger seems to be lurking around every corner: standing rigging, keel bolts, engine, motor mounts, transmission, prop strut, thru-hulls & backing plates, PVC plumbing connections, soft decks, hardware & port/light leaks, crumbling steering pedestals, bad wiring, trailer plugs--the list of malfunctions that might want to sink, burn-down, disable, or de-mast your boat sounds endless. And, on a "new" old boat, you're almost completely lacking the maintenance/repair/replace history you would have on your own boat.

    If someone were truly risk-averse, they might not want to buy a 30+ year old boat. Or, one could buy the boat with the generally-correct thought that almost everything on it will eventually need to be replaced. But, where to start? I think it was Christian Williams that recommended to me, just after I bought my boat, to just take ownership of it, use it gently and observe how it operates, in order to "let the priorities arrange themselves."

    I don't know if you have a reason to doubt the mechanical integrity of your existing standing rigging (other than its age). If you've already made the decision to replace it, why spend the additional $300 for an inspection? The inspection would seem to be of value only if your'e considering delaying replacing the rigging, i.e., getting the assurance that no parts are cracked, badly worn, or facing imminent failure. Then, you could move re-rigging to your 3-5 year out to-do list. If you find out later that you need, say, extensive keel work, then it might make sense to do the re-rigging and the keel together, since, apparently, most facilities make you drop the mast when you drop the keel.

    Most of us newer owners are facing the laundry list of potential disasters that may or may not happen to our aged boats (most don't happen). I'm not sure why, absent any concrete information, you're focusing on standing rigging as your main threat at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickdhat View Post
    snip...They said the furler is 20-30 years old (possibly original) and, like my harken mki is no longer being supported...
    There are many things on a 30 year old boat that are no longer supported and will still probably work just fine until they don't. That doesn't automatically mean you have to replace them all right now or the boat will sink while you're mulling them over. I'm with Kenneth (and Christian) on the notion of letting the priority list get sorted over time. However, I'd still pay to have the rig inspected in advance of closing.

    I waited until after I purchased September Sun to have a rigger climb the mast to tell me if there were any frayed wires or cracked fittings I couldn't see from the deck/dock with binoculars. The sad news was hidden beneath sail tape holding the spreader boots in place. Sure enough, daylight could be seen through corrosion on the tips of the lower spreaders, although the rest of the rig inspected just fine. The tricky and complicated bit was fabricating a repair that in the end is much stronger than the original, and of course also came with a bill.

    It would have been better to have known in advance... That's why we pay surveyors, mechanics, and riggers for their experience and (even then, not always accurate) advice. I'll also be in the Port Townsend area starting next week if you need another set of ears to bounce ideas off of reach out by private message if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth K View Post

    Most of us newer owners are facing the laundry list of potential disasters that may or may not happen to our aged boats (most don't happen). I'm not sure why, absent any concrete information, you're focusing on standing rigging as your main threat at this point.
    https://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?16476-Ericson-35-3-dorade-box-leaks

    A few have noted the issue with the dorade box leaks that might be a good place to begin.
    Sorry if this has already been mentioned here - took a somewhat hurried peek at the thread.


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    Kenneth and Max, I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm definitely headed down that path, but not without a bit of reason. I'm on the waiting list for a slip at my home marina and will sublet a slip until one comes available. That puts me in a unique position of being able to pull the boat out now and keep it in the yard without paying moorage at the same time. While the boat was out I wanted to get some items checked off the list. I also, mistakenly, thought I could pull the mast and work on it along side the boat which would would have made it a good time to replace the rig. There's nothing inherently wrong with the rig nor have I seen anything that gives me reason to replace now (I'm going to get a closer look sometime next week). It just comes down to good timing. Of course, that was before I found out the yard charges for mast storage and boat storage at the same time.

    I should probably take Christian's advise in the purchase and apply it to posting, but it has brought out some really useful and encouraging comments from this incredible site. I definitely appreciate all the help and kind words I've received over the years and with this current endeavor. For now, it's back to a more prudent plan of planning for a few scenarios and using the info I get from the surveyor to decide what to do.
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    BTW.... if you need an extra pair of hands with anything once she's in Everett (fingers crossed), let me know. I'm local and happy to pitch in.
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    Can you store the mast on top of the boat without extra charge? It's more of a pain to work on it there but might be possible with ladders.
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