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    A better route for furler line on e27

    I have always hated my furler line set up. See picture. I believe the bulls eye fairleads on the deck may have been used for something else (spinnaker related?), but were repurposed. The problem is the line is chafing the gelcoat off the cabin side in one section

    Note: the middle eye is loose as I was playing around with an extra one to see if I can keep it off the cabin side. I just don't want to put more holes in my boat and I'd rather find a better way and get rid of the toe stubbing eyes.

    Any suggestions for routing this back to the cockpit? If I use the stanchions the line with run in front of (and maybe against the shrouds). I was trying to figure out a way to run it to the track but the shrouds are in the way. thanks.

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    Most of the furler lines I see run along the bulwarks, guided by blocks on the stanchions.

    And on the port side, since Ericson put spinnaker pole mounts on the starboard foredeck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPS27 View Post
    I have always hated my furler line set up. See picture. I believe the bulls eye fairleads on the deck may have been used for something else (spinnaker related?), but were repurposed. The problem is the line is chafing the gelcoat off the cabin side in one section

    Note: the middle eye is loose as I was playing around with an extra one to see if I can keep it off the cabin side. I just don't want to put more holes in my boat and I'd rather find a better way and get rid of the toe stubbing eyes.

    Any suggestions for routing this back to the cockpit? If I use the stanchions the line with run in front of (and maybe against the shrouds). I was trying to figure out a way to run it to the track but the shrouds are in the way. thanks.

    jay

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    The first furler line on our boat was led thru bolls-eye fittings at each stanchion base. I changed them all, as budget allowed, the the Garhauer solution. Really works well.
    https://www.garhauermarine.com/stanc...lock-sb-3.html
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    I donít see how those fairleads would work for anything. Well, maybe with one or two more points on the curve. But Iíve got something like that (higher up on the cabin side) for the spinnaker downhaul. But they shoot straight to turning blocks near the pulpit bases.
    As the others said, swivel blocks on the stanchion basesíll do ya. Iíve got my furler line lead to an otherwise seldom-used secondary (spinnaker sheet) winch. Which youíre not supposed to do. So sue me. One of these days, Iílol put in a clutch to hold the furler line when the spinnaker is actually in use.
    Todayís drift-a-thon would have been a good day for that - possibly the first sail of the year under 20 knots...
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    I've considered the stanchion to stanchion to stanchion route, which is the usual solution, I'd guess. But as this new pic shows I only have two stanchions, so the line's path would interfere too much to foot traffic and seems like it would pose a significant trip hazard. If I ran the line along the outside of the stanchion the chainplates would be in the way. T

    Thanks Christian, for pointing out that just because it runs along the starboard side, doesn't mean I can't switch to avoid the clutter with spinnaker pole storage mounts. So obvious. But I'm still wondering about the line path.

    Would a mid-route bulls eye fairlead on the port side be a bad idea? Thanks. Appreciate the help.
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    Important trivia -- the Garhauer solution puts the routing of the furler line on the *outside* of the stanchion rather than down the deck on the inside. This moves the line much further from the area where it will be stepped on. Having said that, the E-27 still does not have a stanchion at the shroud location, depending os seizing a lifeline to a shroud, in many of the ones I have seen.
    Bit of a quandary, as one might say.

    Upon further thought, perhaps seize one of these eyes to the shroud for the furler (and maybe also the lifeline wire) to pass thru. Use SS seizing wire.
    https://www.fisheriessupply.com/anta...ne-size-r10-07

    It's just a thought, and I have not yet had my morning coffee...........
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    My rig looks in the photo like a trip hazard (now that I look at it), but in the real world it isn't. When not in use it just lies passive.

    Whichever combination of blocks you use, perhaps Garhauer and standard if necessary, there is really no reason why you can't screw a block to the bulwark or the deck as needed. The layup is thick there and the only significant pressure from the furling line is on the first block, at the bow.

    I was surprised to find, when I replaced it a few weeks ago, that my first block was simply screwed onto the deck (not through-bolted).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Beach View Post
    The first furler line on our boat was led thru bolls-eye fittings at each stanchion base. I changed them all, as budget allowed, the the Garhauer solution. Really works well.
    https://www.garhauermarine.com/stanc...lock-sb-3.html
    This one is by Schaefer and it also allows you to route the furling line outside the stanchions to clear the deck. Not cheap.

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