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Thread: Main Halyard Question

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    Main Halyard Question

    Last year we replaced our line/cable halyard with a new all-line halyard. Three days after it was replaced, I found a new line/cable halyard in one of the holds on board. I'm curious, do you have a line/cable halyard or a line halyard? I think the original line/cable was easier to handle under load but it did tend to mark up the mast. Rick
    1989 32-200
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    " I was just thinking that it's been a week since I last heard bombs, aircraft, helicopters, sirens, loud neighbors, their cars and motorcycles. All I've heard are the sounds of the sea. I've heard waves, wind, bubbles gurgling under the hull as we slice through the Gulf towards Key West" My Journal 3/13/14

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    Isn't this constrained somewhat by the sheaves at the masthead? I need to replace one or both of mine soon as well (cable too long, rope too short.)
    s/v arcturus E29 #134

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    I would guess that the main halyard sheave at the top is 'bout the same for the 80's 32 as it is for out 34.
    When I changed all the halyards out, I tried 3/8 and it was really too tight running thru those sheaves.
    5/16" T-900 was fine, and with about 7K pounds of break strength it's way over-strong for the application.
    Holds tight, with nothing to spare, in our old stock clutches, too.

    Loren
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    Sail # 28400
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    When we sold our Ericson at age 15 it still had the original line-cable halyards, though I had replaced the rest of the running rigging by then. I had washed the line tails a couple of times, but since they and the cables were still going strong I never replaced them. As mentioned above doing so would have required replacing the sheaves, and I am embarrassed to admit that I could never even figure out how to remove them from the masthead.
    Steve Christensen
    Twin Cities, MN
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    1989 Ericson 38-200

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    For what it's worth, I had a rigger go up the mast this week and look at the sheaves, among other things. In his opinion there is no problem going straight to line with my 1985 sheaves. He recommends any of the new lowest stretch, either 3/8 or 5/16ths. When I do change my halyards I won't be using his $5/foot product, but something more in the $1.50 range.

    My original halyards are still quite usable, although the line has swollen some. IWhen I make the change I'll put winches on the mast, a setup I prefer for shorthanded sailing.

    The rigger's inspection revealed a deep crack in the swage of the top fitting of my port lowers. It was on the underside--I completely missed it when I was up there in June.

    Both lowers being changed out today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Williams View Post
    For what it's worth, I had a rigger go up the mast this week and look at the sheaves, among other things. In his opinion there is no problem going straight to line with my 1985 sheaves. He recommends any of the new lowest stretch, either 3/8 or 5/16ths. When I do change my halyards I won't be using his $5/foot product, but something more in the $1.50 range.

    My original halyards are still quite usable, although the line has swollen some. IWhen I make the change I'll put winches on the mast, a setup I prefer for shorthanded sailing.

    The rigger's inspection revealed a deep crack in the swage of the top fitting of my port lowers. It was on the underside--I completely missed it when I was up there in June.

    Both lowers being changed out today.
    We had ours inspected two years ago but we should do so again. I like the idea of the winch on the mast too.
    1989 32-200
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    (hull #844)
    Pensacola, Florida

    " I was just thinking that it's been a week since I last heard bombs, aircraft, helicopters, sirens, loud neighbors, their cars and motorcycles. All I've heard are the sounds of the sea. I've heard waves, wind, bubbles gurgling under the hull as we slice through the Gulf towards Key West" My Journal 3/13/14

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    Stretch

    Quote Originally Posted by Skabeeb View Post
    Last year we replaced our line/cable halyard with a new all-line halyard. Three days after it was replaced, I found a new line/cable halyard in one of the holds on board. I'm curious, do you have a line/cable halyard or a line halyard? I think the original line/cable was easier to handle under load but it did tend to mark up the mast. Rick
    The enemy is stretch. Wire to line has minimal, does add weight aloft .. but our masts are oversized anyway IMHO. If one chooses to go with line, I would not skimp. Lots of inexpensive (Sta-Set) and the like lines can stretch 4 or 5 inches when loaded. Exactly what you don't want to do to your sail (relax the luff) when it's honkin'

    Regards, Greg
    Greg Rohde
    Ericson 32-II
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    Sampson XLS Extra T. It's a good compromise of not too costly & low stretch. I have had Sta-Set X before, but I prefer the XLS Etra T. It has better "hand."
    Keith Parcells
    1983 E-33
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