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Removal spreader-shroud seizing wire

waltersaegir

Member I
Looks like my rigging project is moving forward: the top port and starbord shrouds and hardware are replaced. The two new middle-stays and back-stay are ready for pick-up.

But, the seizing wires in the end of the spreaders won't budge. I bought some punches and also bought drill bits for my dremel. So, when I'm up-the-mast next time, I can try the punch first and use the drill as a backup. I suspect that the stainless wire and the aluminum spreader have generated corrision.

Do any of you have suggestions? I fear that the punch won't work and the drill will cut the aluminum before the stainless wire, but I see little alternative.
 

tenders

Innocent Bystander
I'm not sure exactly what your setup is at the spreaders but a drill would not be the first thing I'd use on that hardware.

I'd bring up a set of wire nippers (snub-nosed wire cutters), some WD-40, and vise grips. Maybe a cutting disk on the Dremel, but they're so brittle that replacing broken ones in the air is probably more trouble than it's worth.

The stainless wire fatigues quickly and then breaks from brittleness. Rocking a bit of it back and forth with the vise grips will get it to snap, then you can pull a few pieces out of the hole, then the rest will quickly follow. Use the WD-40 to help move the first piece out.
 

treilley

Sustaining Partner
That wire is probably monel not stainless. It is fairly soft and hopefully you can pull it through without having to drill.
 

waltersaegir

Member I
Holes' corrision tight

Got ONE hole open with a punch last week-end. Then I broke the punch.

I did end-up clipping the wire flush and spraying with penetrating oil.

Hopefully a new punch (and a spare) will do the trick when I make the trip up to attach the Harken foil with the new forestay wire. Really don't want to drill except as a last resort.
 

waltersaegir

Member I
u-clamps

Just noticed a post by CaptDan that said: "best way to position tips to shrouds is with a pair of stainless cable u-clamps".

If my punch doesn't work, maybe this would be a better alternative than drilling (and maybe better than seizing wire?).

Anyone with opinions on this?

Since I'm not familure, where would I find them? I can't quite envision how they would connect the shrouds to the spreaders.
 

Brian Duff

New Member
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Add your bulldog clip, smear with lanacote and cover all with leather.

We use some metal and mechanical means to secure the shroud into the tip, either the spar builders system such as on Charleston spars, isomat or the like - or seizing wire on spars like yours. Then we step the mast, add light rig tension, adjust the spreader heights to even and swept up appropriately for the rig design, then we tightly lash the tips in place with nylon twine, smother and leather...less weight aloft, less windage, and neater looking too (whatever)
 
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waltersaegir

Member I
Drilled the holes

Drilled the holes and wired the spreaders to the shrouds.

Installed spreader end covers.

Ready to go as soon as I find 2 u-toggle replacement fittings to connect the turnbuckles to the forward-lower chainplate fittings.
 
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