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Removal of Genoa Track

trummp

Junior Member
I will need to remove the Genoa Track on my Ericson32. I can't find any nuts connecting the screws. Are the screwed directly into the deck/hull? I also need to remove the wooden handholds on the left and right side of the mast.
 
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treilley

Sustaining Partner
Welcome Trummp. What year and model 32 do you have? Your handrails should have bungs in them. I am not sure about the Genoa track. I know that my inside overhead handrails have machine screws holding them in place. There must be some captive nuts in the cabin top.
 

trummp

Junior Member
Tim,
It's a 1973 Ericson 32-2. There are no visable nuts holding the overhead handrails. If there are nuts, there under the fiberglass and I have to drill through my overhead.
Thankyou for the reply.
Paul
 

trummp

Junior Member
Tim,
I reread your e-mail and now understand that you thought the nuts were captive so I will not need to do any drilling. Thanks again for the quick reply.
Paul
 

Glyn Judson

Moderator
Moderator
Genoa track removal.

Paul, Welcome to the List. Can you describe a bit more where the tracks are located (toe rail, side deck, etc) and what you've found beneath the track inside the boat? In the case of my E31 the Genoa track is located on top of the teak toe rail with access to the underside of the fasteners at the deck to hull joint. In the case of our boat, it necessitated removing some of the interior teak, etc to get to them. Glyn Judson, E31 hull #55, Marina del Rey, CA
 

trummp

Junior Member
Hi,

It's an metal type runner on the toe rail. There is nothing under that area, that I can see. If there are set nuts to screw into that would be great, but I'm afraid to loosen the screws because if the nuts are not set once I loosen them I won't be able to tighten them again and I don't know how to access them.

Paul
 

Martin King

Sustaining Member
Blogs Author
If I recall correctly, your toerail was through bolted to the deck
before being installed on the hull. There is most likely fiberglass
tabbing covering the nuts. If you try turning the screws from
above you may get a few out, but most likely the nut will just
spin in place. The only way to do it is go in and grind out the
tabbing enough to get a wrench on them. When finished,
re-tab the glass. Not a fun job.

Martin
 

trummp

Junior Member
Martin,
Thank you. It's bad news but thank you anyway.
At least there should be no leaking into the Hull. or is my thinking wrong?
Paul
 

trummp

Junior Member
Martin,
One more question. I'm not sure what you mean by tabbing. Would I access the nut from the side of the toe rail? Would I grind out the fiberglass on the side of the toe rail, then hold the nut while I tighten the bolt, and then repatch the toe rail?
Paul
 
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Martin King

Sustaining Member
Blogs Author
Martin,
One more question. I'm not sure what you mean by tabbing. Would I access the nut from the side of the toe rail? Would I grind out the fiberglass on the side of the toe rail, then hold the nut while I tighten the bolt, and then repatch the toe rail?
Paul

Paul,
Sorry, I'll try to clear it up for you. Tabbing refers to the layer
of fiberglass on the inside of the hull. The factory typically
ran a layer of glass over the hull/deck joint after the deck was
placed on the hull. This is why you aren't seeing the nuts. This
inside layer of glass needs to be cut/ground away to access the
nuts. Incidentally why do you need to do this? Is the joint leaking?

Martin
 

trummp

Junior Member
I want to paint the deck this summer and wand to remove all the hardware and reseal everything. Also I think the track is bent or twisted because the tackel on the rail does not slide in spots and needs to be hit with a rubber mallet to move.
 

Martin King

Sustaining Member
Blogs Author
All good reasons but just be aware that gettting that track off
can be a real bitch. This project is not for the faint of heart
because you go places most boatowners would rather not. If your
boat has a vinyl headliner, part or possibly all of that is coming down.
If your boat has interior hull planking, 1 or more planks are coming
off. Then you get to grind the fiberglass we talked about getting
grinding dust all over your boat interior and yourself. I am itching
just thinking about it. Then after you replace the track, you get
to put it all back together and pray that it looks the same.

Martin
 

bigtyme805

Member III
Interesting Martin from observation of my outside track on my 1985 30+, I thought for sure they were screws. Shoot that work you describe is brutal.

Might want to just tape off the track. No PUN intended!
 

Martin King

Sustaining Member
Blogs Author
Well, I could be mistaken but am pretty sure that genoa track was
through bolted. It would almost have to be considering the
loads on it. I guess you could try backing one of the screws out and
cross your fingers you can get it back. The lack of access to some
of the stuff is really frustating sometimes- like glassing in the floor
over the water tanks for example.

Martin
 
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