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Does anyone know what exactly this boat is? SETH??

Guy Stevens

Moderator
Moderator
A friend found this and sent it to me. At first I thought from the description that it was a e37, but it isn't it is the underbody of an Ericson 39, with what looks a lot like the 37 deck and house.

The stripe is Ericson, and the underbody is so Ericson 39, to be either a great lift of lines, or something that Bruce did. It is also a ketch, strange but true... :)

I am not normally stumped on boats, especially Ericsons, but this one has me...

Guy
:)
 

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wurzner

Member III
Great phote, great looking boat, and most amazing was when I was who posted it. Guy not knowing what kind of boat it is is like the man behind the curtain on the Wizard of Oz being speechless. Atleast we know that it is definately ane Ericson if Guy says so. It would be great to see some inside photos...I can only imagine how nice it is.

shaun
 

treilley

Sustaining Partner
If you can make out the name and it is documented, you may be able to query the name on the CG site.
 

Guy Stevens

Moderator
Moderator
Canadian boat

So the Doc search isn't going to do us any good. I did not see the boat, but a friend with a e-39 sent it to me, and wanted to know what that house was doing on his hull form.

Guy
:)
 

kari

Member III
"what's the boat?"

So the Doc search isn't going to do us any good. I did not see the boat, but a friend with a e-39 sent it to me, and wanted to know what that house was doing on his hull form.

Guy
:)

Kari here;... is it just me or does that rudder area look funny?...
 

Annapolis E-27

Member III
Yes...she was Daybreak

Attached is a link that shows the history of this B. King ketch.

http://www.genoabay.net/daybreak.html

"Warm Rain II" ( Originally "Daybreak")
Bruce King Designed 41' L.O.A. Ketch.
Displacement: 24,000 Lbs. Draft: 6.75 Feet

The hull for "Daybreak" was built in California and shipped to McClelland Boat Works in Duncan on Vancouver Island for completion in 1990 - 91. Her construction is similar to "Mentor" except the hull is built from Port Orfort Cedar. In 1999 - 2000 she was acquired by Ferenc and Candice Mat'e.who commissioned a major re-fit. Her name was changed to "Warm Rain II".
 

Guy Stevens

Moderator
Moderator
Thanks!!!!

Seems good designs stick around a while, especially in hull forms.

Interiors look nice, traditional.

Guy
:)
 

rwthomas1

Sustaining Partner
I could live with the teak decks to own a boat that pretty. She's a looker. I don't usually go for the traditional look but that is just too nice not to like her. RT
 

Rocinante33

Contributing Partner
"In 1999 - 2000 she was acquired by Ferenc and Candice Mat'e.who commissioned a major re-fit. Her name was changed to "Warm Rain II". "

So, she is a cedar hulled craft owned by Ferenc Mate', author of, "The Finely Fitted Yacht," and "The World's Best Sailboats!" I have three of his books in my library, so I guess I helped buy her. Do you think he would take me for a sail?:egrin:

I am surprised to read that the wood hull was built in California.
 

Emerald

Moderator
And don't forget to check out the other Bruce King designs on this same site. There are a pair of really neat 34s also.

Question: How do you drive an Independence 31 owner nuts?

Answer: Give him a terrible case of 3 footitis by showing him a 34 foot version of his boat: http://www.genoabay.net/taurus.html

of note when looking at the pictures, the main saloon occupies the area that would normally include V-berths. There had been a layout design on the 31 that was similar to this concept with a wide open salon and no V-berths, so this really is like looking at what the 31 could have been like.

:egrin:
 
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Martin King

Sustaining Member
Blogs Author
Those boats were modeled after Unicorn, my dad's personal boat. Unicorn was a 41' cold
molded ketch 3/4 built by Gil Iwamoto in costa mesa, and finished
at Driscolls in San Diego. The underbody on Unicorn was modeled after
the 39/46 but the waterlines aft were broader..fairing into that heart
shaped transom. With a clipper bow and other traditional styling cues,
Unicorn was a real sleeper, often suprising people who saw her sail
right through their lee, sometimes with the steering locked off, so
well balanced was her sail plan. I guess I should mention that she
was the first cold molded epoxy boat my father built, and in that
regard, was experimental. While loving the looks of traditional wooden
boats, my dad was wary of the rapid decay problems and was looking
for a way to build in wood that addressed those issues. Cold molding
in epoxy solved that problem and ushered in a new wave of building. This
boat spawned not only the smaller versions built in Vancouver, but lead
directly to Whitehawk and the large scale customs that were to come
in the following decades.
Martin

I saw her here in Newport Beach just before being sold a couple of years ago
<a href="http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/cruizin31/?action=view&current=portsideviewweb.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/cruizin31/portsideviewweb.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

One of the prettiest boats you'll ever see

<a href="http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/cruizin31/?action=view&current=DSCN3519.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/cruizin31/DSCN3519.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
 
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footrope

Contributing Partner
Blogs Author
Kari,

Kari here;... is it just me or does that rudder area look funny?...

It does look strange. The hull right in front of the rudder looks like an extended skeg or something. With help from my wife, Ellen, we Photo-shopped (lightened the shadows, to be precise) the posted photo and revealed the underbody shape. This boat probably tracks quite well, also. See the attached.

Happy New Year!
 

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Seth

Sustaining Partner
Uh...Daybreak?

I have been away for a while-would have liked to guess this one, but this is Martin's area anyway-

There are/were a number of very cool King custom boats out there-Cadre and Madcap-were IOR Custom boats (34' and 40" respectively, IIRC) that looked very much like the 34's from the 70's (Cadre may have been the prototype for the 34). Pinched ends, beamy, tall, high aspect rigs-all typical of the period.

Also, and more interestingly were the Aluminum triplets, Terrorist, (36') and Aggressive II (42', I think), and Hawkeye (48'). All done in the mid 70's these IOR full out race boats were VERY bold experiments with IOR-they all had twin, assymetrical retractable Bilgeboards and outboard transom hung rudders. They had roundish bottoms and carried all ballast in the bilges. They had somwhat high ratings for their length, but all were VERY successful-legendary in some conditions, especially upwind in some breeze, when they would bear off a few degrees for some speed, and those boards would create so much lift they would literally slide up to windward-netting much higher "pointing" compared to the "normal" boats. Amazing to watch in action.

Anyway, happy holidays to all and best regards,

S
 

sgwright67

Member III
Update on Warm Rain II

I came across this old thread while searching for Bruce King designs, and then recognized Warm Rain II which is currently moored in Sidney, BC. Attached is the for sale listing, with lots of interior photos and details. I believe it has already sold, however.

And absolutely beautiful boat - I will certainly take a closer look next time I am at the marina!

http://vanislemarina.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/41-Bruce-King-Custom-Designed-Ketch-1992.pdf
 

Seth

Sustaining Partner
Boat in photo

Not built by Ericson. Looks like a 41' version of the E 36C.



I came across this old thread while searching for Bruce King designs, and then recognized Warm Rain II which is currently moored in Sidney, BC. Attached is the for sale listing, with lots of interior photos and details. I believe it has already sold, however.

And absolutely beautiful boat - I will certainly take a closer look next time I am at the marina!

http://vanislemarina.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/41-Bruce-King-Custom-Designed-Ketch-1992.pdf
 

Seth

Sustaining Partner
E36C style on deck, 39 underbody. Custom boat, don't believe Ericson built it. I think she is 41 LOA

A friend found this and sent it to me. At first I thought from the description that it was a e37, but it isn't it is the underbody of an Ericson 39, with what looks a lot like the 37 deck and house.

The stripe is Ericson, and the underbody is so Ericson 39, to be either a great lift of lines, or something that Bruce did. It is also a ketch, strange but true... :)

I am not normally stumped on boats, especially Ericsons, but this one has me...

Guy
:)
 
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