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    Ericson Trivia

    Anyone up for a little Ericson trivia contest? No prizes, just bragging rights.

    What boats, other than Ericson models, were built by Ericson Yachts over the years?

    Some are pretty well known, others might surprise you.
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    Olson's at least some of them.
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    Question

    I figure that the Olson 25, 911S, and 34 , are kind of obvious. He must know of some others......
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    how about the original Ericson 32, which was basically a Columbia Sabre? or the original Ericson 35 which was rumored to be built with the Pearson/Alberg 35 molds?
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    I can add he Crelock 26 and the 33 and 36 RH's
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    Note that with the change in designer for the Ericson 33RH and Ericson 36RH, they were still called "Ericson's".
    The early E-26 mk 1, was a Crealock design, but also sold as an "Ericson". (At least that's my recollection.)

    I am still wondering if we are about to find out about some other named products from the factory.... !
    Last edited by Loren Beach; 01-10-2019 at 01:42 PM.
    1988 Olson 34 #8
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    Yes, many of you are familiar with the Olsons built by Ericson. When Pacific Boats in Santa Cruz closed their doors in 1987, Ericson obtained the molds for the Olson 25, 911 S & 34 and began producing these models, maintaining the Olson name. Ericson did not get the molds for other Olson models, including the 29, 30 & 40.

    The 25 was a popular one-design boat, and several had been produced by Pacific Boats. Ericson tried to maintain the one-design aspect by building it to Pacific Boats standards, keeping it as light as possible. Not sure we succeeded with that.

    The 911 S was a Carl Shumaker design which began life as the Capo 30, built in SoCal by Westerly Marine. Pacific Boats began producing them as the 911S.

    Only one or two of the Olson 34s had been produced by Pacific Boats, and Ericson went on to build several.

    The Olsons were a challenge to build in that they were quite different in fabrication and assembly from the Ericson models, but they also opened our eyes to new materials and techniques.

    As Loren mentioned, the Holland-designed 33 & 36, Crealock-designed 26, etc. were all sold under the Ericson name, so they don't count! Stay tuned for more boats though.
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    wow, $60k with sails for an O-34 in 1987. ~135k in 2018 dollars. Seems like a steal!
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    Cool Time and Money

    Quote Originally Posted by bgary View Post
    wow, $60k with sails for an O-34 in 1987. ~135k in 2018 dollars. Seems like a steal!
    When we bought our '88 model, late in 1994, the broker knew the original owner. That guy had originally borrowed money to equip it with every factory option, and then added some electronics, a tri-radial, and a mylar genoa.
    It was sold for (round number) $90K.
    And yup, the seller was 'upside down' in it when we bought it.

    One inflation calculator I found on-line puts that price, in 2019 dollars, at $191745.
    Having looked at new cheaper-built boats in that size and displacement range from "Hunta-Cata-Benalina" I figure that ours would actually cost quite a bit over that to build out nowadays.

    EY built very good products!
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    Heres one that might surprise you. For a good part of the 80s, Ericson built Supercat catamarans! Supercats were a beach catamaran a la Hobie or NACRA, although they never gained that level of popularity. They came in 15, 17, 19 & 20 models. I had the opportunity to race a Supercat 19 on several occasions, and it was a fun ride. The 20 was a monster 12 wide with a towering rig - and was billed at the time as the "world's fastest production boat".

    The Supercats were developed in Florida, and at some point the venerable Boston Whaler company began building them Im not sure how that came about. At that time, Ericson and Boston Whaler were sister companies, both owned by CML Group. Apparently CML thought that Ericson would be more suited to building Supercats, and Ericson began producing them in California in the early 80s.

    Supercat was eventually sold off to someone in Minnesota in the late 80s, and they have been long out of production.

    More to come!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Beach View Post
    EY built very good products!
    In general terms, price is not always directly correlated to quality.

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    Roger that! (updated displacement numbers)

    The Ericson-Olson 'history onion' keeps being peeled and this 'Trivia Thread' has been both educational and fascinating. Thanks to Roger for including the O-34 Brochure, with its updated Displacement numbers. The discrepancy between the Pacific Boats O-34, built with a cored hull, vs the Ericson full glass layup hull, has caused confusion in the past.

    Most recently, it was discovered, accidentally, that ORR had used the 'cored hull prototype' displacement values to create the ORR rating for Shoe String, using the 8,800#'s of the prototype vs the 10,600#'s of the Ericson production run.

    Today was the 1st time a printed brochure from Ericson, with the higher/accurate Displacement values, has been seen.

    Haven't a clue who scribbled the numbers on the attachment or where it was acquired, but I've added Roger's brochure with the updated Displacement values to the file.

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    Roger, I haven't seen that version of the Olson brochure before either, specifically the pricing page, by any chance do you have the rest of the pages that you can post? Thanks!
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    Question A more accurate version

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz View Post
    The Ericson-Olson 'history onion' keeps being peeled and this 'Trivia Thread' has been both educational and fascinating. Thanks to Roger for including the O-34 Brochure, with its updated Displacement numbers. The discrepancy between the Pacific Boats O-34, built with a cored hull, vs the Ericson full glass layup hull, has caused confusion in the past.

    Most recently, it was discovered, accidentally, that ORR had used the 'cored hull prototype' displacement values to create the ORR rating for Shoe String, using the 8,800#'s of the prototype vs the 10,600#'s of the Ericson production run.

    Today was the 1st time a printed brochure from Ericson, with the higher/accurate Displacement values, has been seen.

    Haven't a clue who scribbled the numbers on the attachment or where it was acquired, but I've added Roger's brochure with the updated Displacement values to the file.

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    That's a pre-production image and shows the wrong keel and rudder profile. No way to know for sure, but it looked like it was 'borrowed' from an Express 34 brochure.
    I have an accurate drawing in my pix files here, from a Seattle area dealer back in the day. Unfortunately the flyer was printed on red (!) paper and I am not talented enough to totally clean it
    up when making a digital image of it.

    http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...achmentid=8717

    The discrepancy over the weight of the cored vs the solid-layup hull has never seemed like an issue. Hull #1 was from the original builder, and was cored, the rest of the 39 boat production run was built with solid layup hull construction by EY.
    FWIW, I have heard that the "last" hull -- finished out by a Portland Oregon owner -- might really be #40. That one was later sold to a Seattle area sailor, and has all Lewmar opening ports (even the large ports) and a Yanmar diesel, IIRC.

    Ah, the entertainment value of trivia!!
    1988 Olson 34 #8
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