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  • Very complex - I'm encouraged but overwhelmed.

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  • Very cool - I look forward to learning about it.

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  • Nice - You sure do a lot of work on this stuff, Sean...

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Thread: EY.o Version 3 - Bug Report & Updates Thread

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    Exclamation EY.o Version 3 - Bug Report & Updates Thread

    Greetings Everyone!

    After 24 hours of PTSD-inducing fun, I bring you the latest version of vBulletin, and our little site therein. There is till much work to do, however I wanted to go ahead and open the site up to users, so you guys can start exploring, etc.

    I will be working heavily on this site over the next week or so - to get the functionality issues squared away - and then, and only then, will I start working on the site's appearance, etc. I'm busy right now with a double thesis that is due by the end of the summer - so this is kind of conflicting with that....

    First up will be dealing with the downloads issue. The fellow in Scotland who wrote our former downloads app has passed away - leaving the current version unsupported. I have temporarily installed another app - and will be looking at it over the next couple of days to determine if it is something we should consider using, etc.

    The new app will include all site functions - including the admin/legal notices, and new: blogging! I will be bringing all of this together over the next couple of weeks - and will probably start using the blogging feature to roll out some of the new features, etc.

    In the meantime, explore, look around, and post a few threads to catch up with others in the Ericson family....

    I appreciate everyone's patience....thanks.

    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-06-2011 at 11:51 PM. Reason: Goofy use of English!

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    Post URL Cha-Cha

    For those of you visiting late this evening, you may have gotten jostled when I switched the URL back and forth from www.EricsonYachts.org/infoexchange/... to www.EricsonYachts.org/... and back again.... Sorry!

    When I moved the URL to the InfoExchange folder - and in doing so have broken all the links in threads with

    "www.EricsonYachts.org/infoexchange/..."

    in the link...so it's breaking....

    So, instead of waiting, I just went ahead and moved it back... Sorry for the inconvenience!

    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-06-2011 at 11:23 PM.

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    Similies...

    The smileys.... Uh, not him - but others - will need to be fixed. For some reason, they became disconnected during the migration, and a few of them broke ....

    On my list!

    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-11-2011 at 12:53 PM.

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    Moved original post out to seperate thread, this post is N/A now...

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    Bloggers - Go! Go! Go!

    The blogging feature is up and running - and thankfully, after several hours of mind-splitting trouble shooting - I discovered why the custom avatars were not making to the summary window on the front, and that has now been corrected (so happy)!

    I'll be adding an FAQ on blogging tonight (go here to see it) to provide more information about what it is, etc for those who are interested.

    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-11-2011 at 12:39 PM.

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    Lightbulb Document/Gallery/Links - Update

    I've been getting lots of mail asking "wa-happen??" to the links, galleries and downloads. This is an update to that question....

    The links/galleries/downloads (under vB 3.8.7) was a add-on package (known as Links Download Manager - or 'LDM' as we call it) of software (or 'hack' as we call it) from a great developer in Scotland who did really good work. Andrew was a nice guy - very talented. Unfortunately, he became very ill last year, and passed away.

    Since this app was his baby - and free and not supported by an army of developers (like vB is), there has been a lot of hand wringing (in the vB/LDM community) over what to do with the hack - as vB themselves have not picked it up, and there are a number of independent developers who are circling it, trying to decide if they should take it on (Andrew's shoes are very hard to fill - he was a very, very, very talented developer).

    After looking at one other product that is available (and it's tiny by comparison, does about 10% of what Andrew's did), I think I've decided to set up a test.db and first do the 4.1.4 upgrade, and then try and install the last LDM version he wrote - hoping that it will run and not crash in the new PHP environment that our host has upgraded to two weeks ago, etc.

    If it's ok, and stable, I will install this last version of LDM on the working DB and things should return to normal. The only issue is, going forward, is that someone (a developer) needs to adopt LDM and start working on it - for future releases of vB. If they don't, then we'll be back to the same set of problems we have now, trying to managing our documents library, etc.

    Anyhow - that's the poop on vB, LDM, etc.....

    Stay tuned....

    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-11-2011 at 12:37 PM.

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    Similies... FIXED - but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Engle View Post
    The smileys.... Uh, not him - but others - will need to be fixed. For some reason, they became disconnected during the migration, and a few of them broke ....

    On my list!

    //sse
    The similes have been fixed - vB replaced a bunch of the .gif versions with .png versions - and I'm not wild about them (I liked the older ones better - they were easier to read). Please continue to use these, however - as if we manage to get the old ones back, they'll be mapped to the same text commands, and will just "show up" once we make the switch (I'll advise if I do this).

    //sse

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    Similies - Ad Nauseum

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Engle View Post
    The similes have been fixed - vB replaced a bunch of the .gif versions with .png versions - and I'm not wild about them (I liked the older ones better - they were easier to read). Please continue to use these, however - as if we manage to get the old ones back, they'll be mapped to the same text commands, and will just "show up" once we make the switch (I'll advise if I do this).

    //sse

    Further on this - because, you know - I put an emphasis on tackling the really important things first - - I've replaced the "new" vB 4.1.3 similes with the "old" similes from years past. I think they're easier to read....of course, that's just me, so....

    If anyone really would prefer some new similes to replace those we're using, just say so - otherwise I'm done with this as an issue....

    //sse

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    webpage update

    Hi Sean. Thank you for all your great work on the webpage update. As one with limited abilities when it comes to technology, I really appreciate your efforts to keep this site available to the rest of us. The site is really helpful to me in researching problems, seeing what others have done to their boats or just enjoying the camaraderie of other Ericson owners. Thanks again. Dave Cahill
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    Unable to make corrections

    Sean:

    I typed an epistle to one of the threads, and when I went to review it I had mis spelled a word and tried to backspace it out to retype, and it blew the entire thing away.....I have not tried it again, and I am reasonabley certain that is all I did (But with computers and "fat finger" mistakes you never know....)

    I know you have more important things going on (which for the most part is Greek to me) but a quick glance to see if I am losing it would be appreciated.

    Many thanks for all of your mighty efforts in keeping our "LIFELINE" open.

    Thanks and regards
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    Thumbs up Kudos!

    Hi Sean,

    I haven't been aboard for a couple weeks and imagine my surprise at all the changes? So far, so good in viewing and posting. I have only used EY.o V3 in Firefox 4.0.1 for the PC (via Parallels 6 on my MacBook Pro). I've abandoned Safari and use Firefox (v-?) on the OSX side. I'll let you know if I see any problems.

    Great work as usual. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by D & DM Cahill View Post
    Hi Sean. Thank you for all your great work on the webpage update. As one with limited abilities when it comes to technology, I really appreciate your efforts to keep this site available to the rest of us. The site is really helpful to me in researching problems, seeing what others have done to their boats or just enjoying the camaraderie of other Ericson owners. Thanks again. Dave Cahill
    Thanks for the comment - it's appreciated - I'm glad to hear that you find the site useful!

    //sse

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    Talking Coming 'Auto Save' Resolution - in vB 4.1.4....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mort Fligelman View Post
    Sean:

    I typed an epistle to one of the threads, and when I went to review it I had mis spelled a word and tried to backspace it out to retype, and it blew the entire thing away.....I have not tried it again, and I am reasonabley certain that is all I did (But with computers and "fat finger" mistakes you never know....)

    I know you have more important things going on (which for the most part is Greek to me) but a quick glance to see if I am losing it would be appreciated.

    Many thanks for all of your mighty efforts in keeping our "LIFELINE" open.

    Thanks and regards
    Hey Mort -

    Contact me off line to discuss this - but I think I know what it is (bet you're using IE, huh?).... Also - in good news of the future - I'll be updating us tonight to vB 4.1.4 - the very latest version (was released 24 hours ago) - and get this:

    In vB 4.1.4 the thread entry box (and blog entry box, I believe - but don't quote me yet) now has a 'draft-save' feature - that auto-saves your entry as you type it (or rather, saves it very 20 or 30 seconds) - so if something happens, you don't lose your entire entry and the last 30 minutes of your life.... This is good news - I've had several people talking to me about this just in the last few weeks....

    Contact me off line about the IE thing Mort - basically, the issue is in the browser and how it interfaces with vB - Firefox is a much, much better browser - and I recommend you switch. You can draw over your bookmarks very, very easily - and unlike IE, their code is tight - so you don't get Trojan horses (viruses, worms and malware - oh my...) when you click on site elements....

    Anyhow - send me a note and we'll chat....

    //sse

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    Quote Originally Posted by footrope View Post
    Hi Sean,

    I haven't been aboard for a couple weeks and imagine my surprise at all the changes? So far, so good in viewing and posting. I have only used EY.o V3 in Firefox 4.0.1 for the PC (via Parallels 6 on my MacBook Pro). I've abandoned Safari and use Firefox (v-?) on the OSX side. I'll let you know if I see any problems.

    Great work as usual. Thanks!
    Yeah, I'm using only Firefox also (although I do look at it in other browsers to see how it looks, etc) - started doing so after UW made it their default browser - and found it to provide a richer (and safer) environment than our friends in Redmond do.

    Thanks for the comment on the site also - it's getting there - slowly!

    //sse

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    Talking The LDM Saga Continues...but GOOD NEWS!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Engle View Post
    I've been getting lots of mail asking "wa-happen??" to the links, galleries and downloads. This is an update to that question....

    The links/galleries/downloads (under vB 3.8.7) was a add-on package (known as Links Download Manager - or 'LDM' as we call it) of software (or 'hack' as we call it) from a great developer in Scotland who did really good work. Andrew was a nice guy - very talented. Unfortunately, he became very ill last year, and passed away.

    Since this app was his baby - and free and not supported by an army of developers (like vB is), there has been a lot of hand wringing (in the vB/LDM community) over what to do with the hack - as vB themselves have not picked it up, and there are a number of independent developers who are circling it, trying to decide if they should take it on (Andrew's shoes are very hard to fill - he was a very, very, very talented developer).

    After looking at one other product that is available (and it's tiny by comparison, does about 10% of what Andrew's did), I think I've decided to set up a test.db and first do the 4.1.4 upgrade, and then try and install the last LDM version he wrote - hoping that it will run and not crash in the new PHP environment that our host has upgraded to two weeks ago, etc.

    If it's ok, and stable, I will install this last version of LDM on the working DB and things should return to normal. The only issue is, going forward, is that someone (a developer) needs to adopt LDM and start working on it - for future releases of vB. If they don't, then we'll be back to the same set of problems we have now, trying to managing our documents library, etc.

    Anyhow - that's the poop on vB, LDM, etc.....

    Stay tuned....

    //sse
    Well the last 24 hours have been tough - I created and installed a copy of this DB elsewhere on the site, upgraded to vB4.1.4 and then tried to add the LDM hack - and it failed. I mentioned this to the developers out on the vB.org boards, and they told me how to change the xml load files to bypass the error - I did so - and voila! - our LDM data popped up on the test DB like it had never left (and, I guess it never had).

    So - I will be upgrading the live DB tonight to vB 4.1.4 - and will add the LDM hack back into the site - and we'll have documents and galleries and projects and profiles and stories again!

    Once that's done, it will buy us some time to decide what to do in the long run about that portion of the site. My inclination is to move away from a hack all together (unless a good developer, or vB themselves, pick up the hack and start supporting it actively), and slowly transfer the assets to a new portion of the site which is derived from existing vB features - so it can never go out of date. We'll see - anyhow - for now, it's coming back up.

    Once it's in - if anyone sees anything goofy, please let me know.

    //sse
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    Exclamation vB 4.1.4 Upgrade + LDM 6.0.7 PL1 : Upgrade/Install Complete

    The database was upgraded tonight to vB 4.1.4 - and there are lots of new features - including a drafting feature on thread inputs (and possibly blog inputs as well). When entering a thread or reply to a thread, you'll note an occasional small yellow "auto saved" appearing at the bottom of the screen. This is the most recent version of the vB software.

    The LDM hack (the software that controls the downloads, galleries, projects, and profiles) has been upgraded and appears to be functioning normally.

    If anyone sees anything goofy, please let me know. The only thing that might be missing are some new icons or labels - if you see anything goofy like that (or anything else) please advise.

    Thanks,
    //sse
    Last edited by Sean Engle; 06-12-2011 at 11:38 PM.

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