Datamarine LINK 5000

[CSMcKillip]

Hello all, I am looking for information on the Link 5000 by datamarine. I have existing datamarine verges on our boat right now and am trying to keep it vintage as possible, I have the depth, speed and wind gauges on the boat right now and purchased a complete link 5000 system that was just refurbished by DMI or datamarine back in 07.

I am looking for a instruction manual for the unit, I have manuals for the depth, speed and wind 4" guages but am looking for link 5000 documentation.

I have searched the Internet and have emailed Around 5 different outlets, hoping someone here might have a copy laying around.

Any help would be great

[Tom Metzger]

Chris - I assume you did contact DMI.

http://www.dmimarine.com/

[CSMcKillip]

Chris - I assume you did contact DMI.

http://www.dmimarine.com/


Yes, I contacted DMI about the user manual, the PO of the units I purchased said he had a copy but did not know the exact place he put them, I got online and searched all the threads related to Datamarine Link 5000 and hit another couple of sources but have had no luck so far. One of our members did have the manuals but just sold his boat and he was going to check and see if the new owner would make me a copy? I also contacted Stu thru the C34 site, also a member at Catalina 25 Capri 25 site and he forwarded the user manua for the Wind guages.

I have the manuals for the Speed, Depth and Wind from Datamarine - included when we purchased the units new, DMI did state the tranducers will trade out, or are the same so I will not have to remove the thru hul just the tranducer when I install the new units.

Looking at the LInk 5000 unit I have the following:
Wind Guage
Compass
(2) COMP Slave units
One Unit that attaches to the Edison Wheel
One Unit that installs at the nav station

I also got all new thru hulls, tranducers, wires, ect. The system was checked by Datamarine and was going to be installed in a Newport 30. I am planning on setting up a bench with 12v power and running thru the wires and see what I need to do to reinstall over our existing system from Datamarine.

Everything but the manual.

[Tom Metzger]

Ah, you're desperate. That adds interest to the negotiations. :)

I'll take a look when I go back to the boat. If I have it I won't be near a copy machine until I get home again in another week or so.

[CSMcKillip]

Ah, you're desperate. That adds interest to the negotiations. :)

I'll take a look when I go back to the boat. If I have it I won't be near a copy machine until I get home again in another week or so.


You are so correct Tom, I am assuming that you have the Link 5000 system on your boat as well. How about a friendly review of what I am getting myself into.

I will gladly pay in Grog :egrin:

[Tom Metzger]

Chris - I have the central unit and the remote at the wheel, but do not have the individual meters. The remote is powered by, and supplied signals by a single coaxial cable. The transducers feed into the central unit.

I seriously doubt if I have any documentation covering the separate meters.

[johnwmcc]

I recently purchased a 1987 Ericson 35 with the same Data Marine Link 5000 system. Had DMI replace all of the LCD's in the remote unit. I am also searching for the owners manual or any documentation. Would greatly appreciate any help.

John McCaskill

[CSMcKillip]

John, you will be the first on my list to send a copy to, if I find some instructions.

[CSMcKillip]

I got the units yesterday and I really need some help. The main unit has inputs for the wind, depth, and speed, alarm, power, ect. There is only ONE output that is a BNC connector. I have 5 displays to hook up.

For the love of peat can someone exain what or how this books up. My best guess is that one cable ( what kind?) runs to the aft side of the boat, then hits some kind of HUB then out to the rest of the units.

Someone please shed some light on how these things work.........

[Tom Metzger]

Chris & John - I Just got back from the lake with the Link 5000 manual. it is too big to fit on my copier so I'll have to go to Office Max to copy it. It's 50 pages so it will be a PITA to copy and then scan. I'll try to get it done tomorrow.

In the meantime, the manual refers to a "Link Network" which on the system layout diagram shows it as the coax coming out of the main unit, going through a tee with one leg going to the 550 remote (at the wheel). The other end of the tee is shown as being open. There is no info on any other remotes.

I would gather from this that all of the remotes are connected with BNC tees. The remotes are powered through the coax.

[Emerald]

This just sounds like an old style 10Base2 aka thinnet ethernet network. Simple stuff - just need to get BNC and T's - I am assuming that the instruments serve as terminators on the cable ends (or it's not even an issue the way DMI implemented).

Of course, take this all with a grain of salt, as I've not seen any of these instruments hands on, so maybe deposit a hay penny if desired :egrin:

[Tom Metzger]

This just sounds like an old style 10Base2 aka thinnet ethernet network.

I love it when you young guys talk dirty. ;)

[CSMcKillip]

Thanks Tom, I have some cables in hand, and I am going to power them up and see what I can do to get them up and running.

Feeling like a fool, but happy that you have the manuals.

Thanks Tim,

[CSMcKillip]

Inwent over to the radio shack down the street and picked up (2) 12' BNC cables that rated at 50. I also got a "T" to extend the BNC to the next guage. I took my riding lawn mower battery out and attached it to an extra power panel I had in the garage that was fused. I first checked the main unit by supplying power and checked all the buttons and LCD.

Everything checked out Ok. I then attached the larger helm unit to the BNC and it powered up. I then took the other gauges and added the second BNC to the Helm guages, low and behold everything turned on and seemed ok.

I have 1 set of tranducers already on the boat, and another set that is brand new here at the house.

Thank you all for the replies on the cables, you know even today gauges seem to have a thousand wires, even the old datamarine gauges I have on the boat right now have at least 3 wires coming into the units plus the BNC or the RCA jacks from the tranducer. Datamarine sure made this unit simple to get setup and the addition of a guage is simple to due by running one wire.

I am looking forward in reading the manual, thanks Tom again for making a copy for me.

It's a great feeling to be part of the Ericson family.

[sailingdeacon]

I found that the DMI repair site will talk by phone and is very helpful... considering they may well have a customer some day.

[sailingdeacon]

Speaking of manuals, I need the installation material for the Link 5000 fluxgate compass. It is the Datamarine L-500 Fluxgate compass sensor KVH 912012

[CSMcKillip]

Speaking of manuals, I need the installation material for the Link 5000 fluxgate compass. It is the Datamarine L-500 Fluxgate compass sensor KVH 912012

Hopefully the setup directions will be in the 50 page manual Tom is running off for us. There seems to be three wites that hook up on mine out of the 12+ wires coming out of the unit, red wire to the red power input, white wire to compass + and black wire to compass -.

These were the only wires that were stripped and had crimps on them, and my very uneducated quess.

I will run some searches and see what I can find.

[Tom Metzger]

I have now scanned the Link 5000 owner's manual. It is much to big to attach here, >5 mb.

It includes the installation of the L-500 compass.

I would appreciate it if someone could put it into the Resource section of this site (Loren?).

I will send the PDF file to anyone who needs it before it gets posted on the site. Send me an email: trmetzger-at-earthlink.net

[sailingdeacon]

I dug out my Link 5000 manual, 50 pages. It describes the use of the compass and includes the wiring as you described - on page 7. But a key concern is on page 23 , Compass Installation, where it describes a manual "shipped with the optional L-500 compass - with detailed installation instructions. I am mainly concerned with how close it can be installed to other equipment and how to properly swing the compass, as mentioned on page 44. I see from an image of it that the compass has two adjustments, a E-W and a N-S adjustment.

So... we both need that optional manual. I am contacting DMI repair to see if they can provide the compass manual.

[CSMcKillip]

Steve is out at DMI till next week, read the asthmuth 1000 installation manual from KVH.

On another note my compass was made by "sailcomp" not KVH, guess they got bought out.

How do you both like the Link System?
What is the difference in the 5000 vs the 5100, manual said the 5100 has a LCD?

I have a 5000, and it does have a LCD display?

Thanks everyone, I can sleep now.

[sailingdeacon]

Swinging the compass is needed on the link compass. I have a photo of the L-500 compass. it has two knobs, one E-W and one N-S. This l-500 compass uses an out dated N+1 format, not the current NMEA 0183 format. The LInk 5000 accepts only the N+1 format. So I am a bit uncertain that the Azimuth 1000 compass documents would apply other than conceptually.

In general the Datamarine 5000 and remote is excellent. I love the small space required at the helm for the remote unit... connected with only one cable.

[johnwmcc]

Tom, appreciate your going to the trouble on the manual. Looks like Chris could write his own.

John

[CSMcKillip]

Tom, appreciate your going to the trouble on the manual. Looks like Chris could write his own.

John

You are so dam right, the whole process of dealing with the 33 offsets me to believe that the boat has been left for the albatross. I have gone thru the 30, 32 and 34 manuals to try and look for anything close to our hull.

I started the Capri 25 international association because o have a great love for sailing, my father had won 3 north American championships as well as a worlds in Scottland, sailing to me comes as second nature and I am glad to get n the mix of things and try and get results.

The instruments are a, let's say, bonus. There will be nothing that replaces the air on my cheek, the rush in my mind and the true joy of coming into the line of 20+ boats racing. I am now 38 and I have had my own fun at sailing, I want to sit back and enjoy the wind in my sails and hear the rush of water hitting the hull as I adjust the sheets.

I have been truly blessed with this boat, she is a fine girl that I plan on sailing for a long time.

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Ok ,back to topic. The compass on eBay is a datamarine, look at the add and the photos, I assume mine is older. The instructions for the KVH gives the calibration, I assume they are the same.

[CSMcKillip]

I was at our boat yesterday and was looking at the location to install the mail unit, where do you have yours installed?

[Emerald]

looking at the location to install the mail unit, where do you have yours installed?

I've got my mail unit installed at the roadside on a post where the letter carrier can reach it from their truck easily.... :cool: