'Kunu' gets new Awlgrip hull

[CaptDan]

Just had to share these shots of the fine work done by the paint shop at SeaView East in Seattle.

Took my breath away, it did. :)

[HGSail]

Absolutely gorgeous

Pat
E29
#224
Holy Guacamole

[Quiet Magic]

That is SWEET!!

[Nigel Barron]

Thats great! I am doing the same to my Ericson 27 in October.

[Art Mullinax]

Absolutely gorgeous. These boats still have a fine line that will turn a mans eye! Did they remove the rub rail or tape it off?
Art M.

[CaptDan]

Absolutely gorgeous. These boats still have a fine line that will turn a mans eye! Did they remove the rub rail or tape it off?
Art M.

Hi Art,

They taped it off; did a thorough prep on everything, then covered the coach/deck with plastic before spraying.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[gareth harris]

Capt. Dan - would you be able to post a picture of the chainplates and the stanchions next to them, to give me an idea where to mount them as I rebuild the deck?
Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

[Sean Engle]

Very nice! :egrin:

//sse

[chrism]

We had it done last year, it is breathtaking when you first walk in and see her like that...

Wait 'till you start turning heads in the harbor!

[footrope]

Hindsight says you were right to have that done, Dan. Going to try a gel coat polish next year on mine. If it wasn't for that diesel heater I want, I'd be tempted to do the same.

Makes you want to find an alternative to fenders forever, doesn't it?

Is the name and port a paint job or vinyl lettering?

Cheers,

[CaptDan]

Capt. Dan - would you be able to post a picture of the chainplates and the stanchions next to them, to give me an idea where to mount them as I rebuild the deck?
Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

Hi Gareth,

I'd be glad to. Hope you're not in too big a hurry as it will take me about a week to get them shot and posted. I'll put it on the to-do list.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[CaptDan]

Hindsight says you were right to have that done, Dan. Going to try a gel coat polish next year on mine. If it wasn't for that diesel heater I want, I'd be tempted to do the same.

Makes you want to find an alternative to fenders forever, doesn't it?

Is the name and port a paint job or vinyl lettering?

Cheers,

Craig,

Believe me if I could've just done a wax job, I'd have few more bux in the wallet. Unfortunately it wasn't in the cards - the hull was screaming for paint.

The transom lettering is vinyl. I asked the yard to match the font/style of the previous version which they did quite well. In fact, I think it's an improvement. The original boat name was a graduated black to dark blue, silver outline. I don't miss the gradation. I believe the folks at Prism on Westlake Ave did the font work.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[CaptDan]

Hi Gareth,

I'd be glad to. Hope you're not in too big a hurry as it will take me about a week to get them shot and posted. I'll put it on the to-do list.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"


Gareth I owe you an apology - this completely slipped my mind. Seven weeks later and I've been involved with a lot of other projects, only few boat-related.

One technical problem: my boat is med-tied with no finger piers. This will make it difficult to obtain shots with the correct angle-to-object relative to camera. I CAN get shots forward of the beam. Would that still serve your purpose - assuming you haven't already proceeded with the stanchions?

Let me know.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[gareth harris]

My boat is in storage a long way away right now. I am looking for a guide on where to mount the extra stanchions when I finish rebuilding the deck next year. A picture, maybe with a ruler to show distance, of where the stanchion sits relative to the chainplate is what would be helpful.
Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

[rdesjardins]

What are the colors you used for the stripes topsides and bottom paint? Getting ready to paint my E23-1 and I really like those blues. I take it the sides are white?

[treilley]

Gareth, do you not still have the stanchion holes on the underside of the deck to go by? Did I miss something here?

[gareth harris]

No, I am not sure what the original set up was, but there is no sign of a stanchion ever having been there. I have wondered if the lifelines were attached to the shrouds instead, but if others had a stanchion then I have no idea what happened.

Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

[CaptDan]

What are the colors you used for the stripes topsides and bottom paint? Getting ready to paint my E23-1 and I really like those blues. I take it the sides are white?

Wow! A blast from the past (subject-wise):egrin:

I'll have to check my records to find the exact names of the Awlgrip colors, but if memory serves, the hull is an 'off-white-gloss,' and the shear/boot stripes a 'royal' or dark blue. I tried to duplicate the original blue hue, but chose a slightly deeper white than the brighter factory original.

If I can dig up the exact Awlgrip names I'll post them here. But no matter what, nothing beats seeing your freshly Awlgripped boat in the shed.:)

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[CaptDan]

My boat is in storage a long way away right now. I am looking for a guide on where to mount the extra stanchions when I finish rebuilding the deck next year. A picture, maybe with a ruler to show distance, of where the stanchion sits relative to the chainplate is what would be helpful.
Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

Another thing I never did that I said I would.:esad: Sorry, Gareth.

Did you ever solve that question, or do you still need pix?

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[Loren Beach]

FWIW...
I have observed a number of sailboats, from diverse builders, that seized the "usually single wire" life line to the outer shroud at that part of the side deck, in the 60's and early 70's.
At some point the buyers must have become more willing to pay for a more detailed-out stanchion system.
Of course, back in those halcyon days, pulpits, lifelines, and the anodizing on the aluminum spars were extra-cost options... :rolleyes:
By the late 70's, I still remember the arguments, both ways, at a PIYA meeting over whether racing boats under a certain length (about 18' as I recall) should have life lines and whether stanchions over 18" high should be required.

Both the standards of the industry and the sophistication of the buyers have changed (and occasionally improved...) since those days.
;)

Loren

[treilley]

Is the stanchion by the shroud the only one missing? If so, I would have someone measure from the 2 adjoining stanchions. If they are all missing, measure from the pulpit and pushpit. There must be other 35-IIs in your area.

[west]

Capt Dan, If I may ask, how much did it cost? Very breath taking. Will it last as long as the the old one? As hard a finish? I love the colors!
West

[Loren Beach]

Until Dan checks in again, I can at least give a current bid (10-08) from a top-rated local shipwright for an LPU refinish of our 34 footer.
This assumes that the owners do all the deck hardware removal and re-installation...
Hull = $250/foot. Deck = $550/foot.

This is for a job that will easily pass the "one foot test." In the case of this particular craftsman, this is the only level of work that he will agree to do, and currently his waiting list for boat restorations is at two years. Yeah, he's that good.

This gives you a ball park bid figure. Then you have to add several hundred $ for local transportation to and from his shop, which is not on the water.

You should, no matter who does the work, also factor in an added cost for "Mission Creep." That's for the additional projects that you WILL uncover a need to do while other parts of the boat are removed and the opportunity and access is the best it probably will ever be. This is actually the hardest part of any project to budget for, by far.

I have seen several very successful restorations and repaints from this shop and they really do look That Good! Just plan on keeping and actively using your boat a minimum of another decade to start to amortize out that expense. You will get back some of the money someday when you sell, but not all of it.
:rolleyes:

Cheers,
Loren

ps: a good LPU finish will last about 20 years, give or take.

[CaptDan]

Capt Dan, If I may ask, how much did it cost? Very breath taking. Will it last as long as the the old one? As hard a finish? I love the colors!
West

Loren's quote is fairly close. I was fortune to get a 25% discount off the book rate, which in 2005 was around $225 ft if memory serves. I opted to have the hull done only; the deck/cabin was still okay in my opinion.

I can't speak to the longevity of Awlgrip; it's been over three years and the paint still looks good. It's VERY tough stuff; the hull weathered some hits against the harbor's fixed piers during a storm in 2006, and there was virtually no permanent scarring. I've read claims that with maintanence, professionally applied LP coatings can last 10-20 years.

The biggest motivation for the paint job was a large, oval gelcoat color mismatch on the starboard side - a result of a some repair that hadn't cosmetically aged well. I'd hoped to be able to spot-fix it for a cheap, but I became convinced that it was just throwing good money after bad. At the same time, I didn't want to do a low grade (or do-it-yourself) enamel coating, and have to face redoing it in five years.

In retrospect, I'm glad I had the job done.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"

[west]

Ok. That is worth considering. Capt Dan, where are you located?
west

[CaptDan]

Ok. That is worth considering. Capt Dan, where are you located?
west

In a 'burb' just outside Seattle, WA. The Awlgrip was done at Seaview East Boatyard in Ballard, located on the western part of the Lake Washington Ship Canal.

Capt Dan G>E35II "Kunu"