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Mikebat
06-02-2005, 10:40 PM
At the end of Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, the elves, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo travel to the Grey Havens to board a ship. The place they were bound for is Valinor. Valinor is part of the continent Aman, also called the Undying Lands, to the west of Middle Earth across the Great Sea. Valinor was founded by an immortal race called the Valar, who created most of the peoples of Middle Earth. It is also where lesser immortal beings like Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron came from. It is where the Elves are travelling to, though they did not come from there.

Valinor isn't mentioned in the movies, and it is only hinted at in the book trilogy, in the songs and poems. There's no passage in Lord of the Rings along the lines of "...and so the Ring-bearer sailed with the Elves to Valinor..." But there's more about Middle Earth and Valinor in the supplemental books called The Silmarillion. It's in these stories where the mythology behind the world of Hobbits and Elves and magical Rings is fleshed out. An interesting thing about Valinor is that, among the inhabitants of Middle Earth, the Elves are the only ones who know how to sail there. After the Downfall of Númenor, the world assumed its round shape, except for Valinor, which left the Bent World. Mortals sailing to the west eventually circled the world and returned to their starting point. But an Elven ship sailing to the west could leave the Bent World and travel through the air 'as it were on a mighty bridge invisible' eventually making landfall on Tol Eressëa, the Lonely Isle, and then crossing the Bay of Eldamar to reach the shores of Valinor.

http://www.batch.com/images/shoresofvalinor2.jpg

Kinda looks like the West End of Catalina, doesn't it? :egrin:

I thought of naming my boat Tol Eressëa (pronounced TOL ehr-ESS-ay-uh) but I think I'll save that for the dinghy. Might be too hard to understand over VHF, I think. So is the name of Eärendil the Mariner, (ey-AR-ndeel) the first Elf to sail the Straight Road. His name is Elvish for 'Sea-Lover'. His vessel was Vingilot - 'Foam-flower' in Elvish. Good name for a boat. After his mission in Valinor, the Valar hallowed Eärendil and his ship, and they now sail together in the sky shining as the evening and morning star.

So anyway, that's why I named my boat Valinor. And because besides all that, I'm a big geek. :egrin:

Before I submitted my documentation papers, I checked the USCG registry for any other boats with this name. Look it up here: http://www.st.nmfs.gov/st1/commercial/landings/cg_vessel2.html

There were none in January, so I thought mine was going to be unique. But wouldn't you know it: someone else named their boat Valinor at the same time I did. The very same month my USCG registration went through, someone on the East coast also registered a boat named Valinor. And the other Valinor is also an Ericson!

u079721
06-03-2005, 10:03 AM
Interesting story Mike. Just be thankful that you don't live in the UK, where their documentation service requires all registered names to be absolutely unique. Which is why, I was once told, you see names like Serenity on Tyne, and not just Serenity.

Valinor on LA wouldn't have quite the same Middle Earth ring to it, would it?

gareth harris
06-03-2005, 04:37 PM
Valinor is a good idea for a name, and I doubt you will run into the other one on your part of the ocean.
'Serenity on Tyne' is a contradiction in terms if ever there was one (at least southerners think so).
G

soup1438
06-04-2005, 10:55 AM
There's usually a fair amount of creativity required in naming a boat, and, for men, it seems to be more involved than naming our... ummmm... member. (laughs)

In any case I've noticed that some folks don't put much thought in it-- i.e. a lot are unsubtle puns or obvious double entendres.

Some are amusing; in a thread about bottom work on an E-25 someone posted a picture of such a boat w/ the name "Blow Me" which is amusing but a bit "obvious".

Some names, admittedly, are so obscure that they _have_ to be explained... because, face it, some things are only meaninful to the *namer* (and, admittedly, my boat's name falls into that category).

I will admit that working on a name *does* seem to work well as a family bonding event given the consensual nature of accepting a name.

Geoff Johnson
06-06-2005, 02:57 PM
Based on experience, boat names after a few years never seem quite as clever as they did when they first came to mind. That's why I am glad that the name of my boat was sufficiently unobjectionable when I bought it that I could keep the name and deflect any derision toward the prior owner.

Nick Reynolds
06-20-2005, 12:17 AM
It's not that mine was unobjectionable, it's that we could never achieve the concensus of what WOULD work. Different side of the same coin. I can still deflect blame to the prior owner!

Sisiutl - E27

bayhoss
06-24-2009, 10:52 PM
:egrin:At the end of Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, the elves, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo travel to the Grey Havens to board a ship. The place they were bound for is Valinor. Valinor is part of the continent Aman, also called the Undying Lands, to the west of Middle Earth across the Great Sea. Valinor was founded by an immortal race called the Valar, who created most of the peoples of Middle Earth. It is also where lesser immortal beings like Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron came from. It is where the Elves are travelling to, though they did not come from there.

Valinor isn't mentioned in the movies, and it is only hinted at in the book trilogy, in the songs and poems. There's no passage in Lord of the Rings along the lines of "...and so the Ring-bearer sailed with the Elves to Valinor..." But there's more about Middle Earth and Valinor in the supplemental books called The Silmarillion. It's in these stories where the mythology behind the world of Hobbits and Elves and magical Rings is fleshed out. An interesting thing about Valinor is that, among the inhabitants of Middle Earth, the Elves are the only ones who know how to sail there. After the Downfall of Númenor, the world assumed its round shape, except for Valinor, which left the Bent World. Mortals sailing to the west eventually circled the world and returned to their starting point. But an Elven ship sailing to the west could leave the Bent World and travel through the air 'as it were on a mighty bridge invisible' eventually making landfall on Tol Eressëa, the Lonely Isle, and then crossing the Bay of Eldamar to reach the shores of Valinor.

http://www.batch.com/images/shoresofvalinor2.jpg

Kinda looks like the West End of Catalina, doesn't it? :egrin:

I thought of naming my boat Tol Eressëa (pronounced TOL ehr-ESS-ay-uh) but I think I'll save that for the dinghy. Might be too hard to understand over VHF, I think. So is the name of Eärendil the Mariner, (ey-AR-ndeel) the first Elf to sail the Straight Road. His name is Elvish for 'Sea-Lover'. His vessel was Vingilot - 'Foam-flower' in Elvish. Good name for a boat. After his mission in Valinor, the Valar hallowed Eärendil and his ship, and they now sail together in the sky shining as the evening and morning star.

So anyway, that's why I named my boat Valinor. And because besides all that, I'm a big geek. :egrin:

Before I submitted my documentation papers, I checked the USCG registry for any other boats with this name. Look it up here: http://www.st.nmfs.gov/st1/commercial/landings/cg_vessel2.html

There were none in January, so I thought mine was going to be unique. But wouldn't you know it: someone else named their boat Valinor at the same time I did. The very same month my USCG registration went through, someone on the East coast also registered a boat named Valinor. And the other Valinor is also an Ericson!

Methinks I have made an error between "title" and "posts" !!!!

Sven
06-24-2009, 11:16 PM
Great title, great post, and great name ...

Can't think of a better start in this forum :egrin:



-Sven