Sven
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Tell me about it ! There is no way in h#ll you can fill a 1-liter outboard built-in fuel tank without spilling at least 1/2 a cup at the end. The designs are criminally stupid.
-Sven
New California Fuel Container Woes
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Tell me about it ! There is no way in h#ll you can fill a 1-liter outboard built-in fuel tank without spilling at least 1/2 a cup at the end. The designs are criminally stupid.
-Sven
Sven
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I'm referring to these monstrosities
The spigot stores inside the can so it is dripping fuel when you open the can. When you pull the spigot out of the filler hose the fuel left in the spigot drains out all over the place. If you don't pull the spigot out fast enough the fuel just overflows the tank. Maybe you aren't supposed to put the spigot in the tank but then you have to try to aim the flow freehand.
It is just a disaster.
-Sven
Jeff Asbury
Principal Partner
Just like these wonderful new fuel jugs, the ones that encourage you to spill the fuel everywhere because the don't work, and well no one thought about the fact that people only have 2 hands not 4 when they were designed!
Guy
I just take the nozzle off and use a long funnel (it's like 30" I would guess). Hardly ever spill a drop now.
To add fuel to my 4hp outboard internal tank, I just disconnect the fitting at the end of the hose external tank and use the squeeze ball pump to fuel into the internal outboard tank.
Sven
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Good ideas !
I wonder if there is a 1 or 2 gallon external tank with a ball pump hose one could use as a spare gas tank in place of the red monstrosities ?
-Sven
Jeff Asbury
Principal Partner
I just recently down sized from a 6 gal like the one in the back of this pic to a 3 gal like the one in the foreground. I don't think I have seen anything smaller. I think any thing less would be too small. Sven does your outboard have a connection for a external tank?
The deck fill for my diesel tank on my E-27 is on the port side of the cockpit deck. I purchased that long funnel I have very soon after I tried tipping one of those 5 gal diesel Jerry cans to top off fuel. I also try to use a Baja Filter funnel when ever I can. That requires a slow pour because the filter is so fine.
My 6 gal outboard tank is for sale for $20 if anyone is interested. Sorry, no hose and squeeze pump included.
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Mikebat
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Of course there is. Remove the adult-proof cap and pour into the fuel tank with a funnel. I am aware of no regulation that requires me, the end-user, to use a broken fill cap, even if it is required to be sold with the can. I am, however, aware of regulations requiring me to take care not to spill fuel into the water. To that end, I eschew the adult-proof cap.
I swiched to this thing recently, and it is a LOT beter than the two prviously pictured, but you may need a third hand if you have a can any bigger than 2 and a half gallons....two to hold and one to PUSH THE BUTTON!
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Fuel transfering
When it comes to moving fuel from a Jerry Can into the deck fill on a sailboat, the "rattle ball syphon" is the best idea I have ever found. I bought one over a decade ago at a local chandlers and they still sell 'em.
I asked Mr Google about it and quickly found this link:
http://www.tackletogo.com/syphonmate.html
The fuel can stays upright, no (or very little from a last dribble from the hose when done) fuel is spilled. My back is just not up to lifting and pouring from a full five gallon container of diesel any more.
You do have to coil up the empty hose-and-valve and store in something like a larger zip-lock bag. I store this and the little plastic bottle of diesel bug killer in one place in a stern storage locker.
I would guess that most of the cruisers in our club have one of these on board.
Loren
ps: edit: I moved the fuel container concerns to their own new thread. This leaves the acetone thread as was, with its own focus.
When it comes to moving fuel from a Jerry Can into the deck fill on a sailboat, the "rattle ball syphon" is the best idea I have ever found. I bought one over a decade ago at a local chandlers and they still sell 'em.
I asked Mr Google about it and quickly found this link:
http://www.tackletogo.com/syphonmate.html
The fuel can stays upright, no (or very little from a last dribble from the hose when done) fuel is spilled. My back is just not up to lifting and pouring from a full five gallon container of diesel any more.
You do have to coil up the empty hose-and-valve and store in something like a larger zip-lock bag. I store this and the little plastic bottle of diesel bug killer in one place in a stern storage locker.
I would guess that most of the cruisers in our club have one of these on board.
Loren
ps: edit: I moved the fuel container concerns to their own new thread. This leaves the acetone thread as was, with its own focus.
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Jeff Asbury
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The jug like is in Sven's picture is horrible.
But in the model in mherrcat's picture, there is a plastic piece inside the spout designed to require two hands to open the valve, and to lock shut when the pressure is taken off. It can be popped out/broken off, allowing the valve to be operated reasonably nicely with one hand.
But in the model in mherrcat's picture, there is a plastic piece inside the spout designed to require two hands to open the valve, and to lock shut when the pressure is taken off. It can be popped out/broken off, allowing the valve to be operated reasonably nicely with one hand.