.. Looks like great product you have. But I need a 4 or 5 step ladder to board from swimming. The E25 has that nice 7feet rock solid toenail and just needs a ladder w fixed connector up top so ladder can't swing, and rubber or plastic posts to not scrape sides. Like a Bunk Bed ladder almost, instead of huge hook ladders... I did find a Bumper-Ladder by Optimar which is Sooooo heavy it barely moves as I climb up, but sucks to weigh down boat that much , they should make in lighter form.